Nevada GOP Caucus:Ron Paul Places 2nd

Impressive, another win over Fred and Rudy, edging McCain, and beating the Huckster good too.

clipped from www.msnbc.msn.com Republicans  |  Polls | County Results Candidate Votes % of votes Delegates won Projected winner Mitt Romney 21,651 51% 17 Ron Paul 5,597 13% 4 John McCain 5,453 13% 4 Mike Huckabee 3,405 8% 2 Fred Thompson 3,290 8% 2 Rudy Giuliani 1,857 4% 1 Duncan Hunter 849 2% 1 95% of precincts reporting

LA Times: Ron Paul Beats Fred and Rudy--Again!

Do recall that the Charleston Daily Mail conducted a poll for republican Presidential elections back in late spring, online, where they also listed Fred Thompson as a candidate, even though he had not declared, and excluded Ron Paul. The Daily Mail should now have their hat in hand.

As for basing everything on national polls, that has now proven erroneous since Iowa, New Hampshire, and Michigan primaries. Don Surber's and Vic Sprouse's candidates, Thompson and Giuliani, respectively, are not doing as well as Ron Paul whom everyone wrote off as not standing a chance. In case you missed it, here are the Michigan results again:

MICHIGAN PRIMARY: RESULTS

Mitt Romney: 39%

John McCain: 30%

Mike Huckabee: 16%

Ron Paul: 6%

Fred Thompson: 4%

Rudy Giuliani: 3%

Fred Thompson was soundly defeated (almost last with 3 percent) by republican voters in New Hampshire, while Paul and Giuliani about tied.

Could it be that the republican establishment is completely out of touch with the electorate? Could it be that the party has pushed top down on issues so long, that they have failed to hear what traditional conservatives, whom the neoconservatives usurped, are complaining about? Yes, it could very well be, and it is not a surprise to many of us, the disenfranchised.

BOTH parties have trampled the Constitution, which is precisely what partisan politics always does to the
law--bending, twisting, and circumventing it for their own pleasure. This is what Americans are angry about, and want to recover the legitimate and limited government that was originally established. The republican party is as self-blinded as the democrats when it comes to seeing reality beyond their establishment orientation. Post-9/11 government by the neoconservatives in particular made it clear just what kind of new tyranny is being erected under the guise of "defending freedom", and provoked traditional conservatives, as well as classic liberal and libertarians, to react strongly and wield the Constitution against it.

America's new government needs more than just a makeover or professed "change". What is required now is a revolution, actually a counter-revolution to restore its original form and restraints, both the States and people respectively. Ron Paul is the only real candidate of substantive "change", and change for the better. Cal Thomas said the same recently:

"Mike Huckabee... sounds like a big government Republican. The only one behaving like a real Republican is Ron Paul, who actually wants to cut spending and get government out of our lives. He won't win the nomination because too many Republican are into handouts and restribution, just like Democrats.

"It's a sad political season if you are a conservative... Maybe a miracle will happen and Republicans will start behaving like Republicans again."

Read all of his comments here.

clipped from latimesblogs.latimes.com Ron Paul, Dr. No-body, beats Rudy and Fred -- again Well, he's hanging in there. Not only that, but Rep. Ron Paul thumped two reputed Republican heavyweights in the Michigan primary -- former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani, you may recall if you can remember anything as distant as last summer, was the longtime GOP national front-runner in polls. But guess what? Ron Paul, the 72-year-old Texas congressman and ob-gyn who delivers babies and a strict view of the Constitution, beat Giuliani in Michigan. And beat him good. Paul even beat Thompson this time, the real consistent conservative who was supposed to be the next Ronald Reagan until he actually announced his campaign in September. Richard Viguerie, the noted conservative author, announced he's launching a website to support Paul. Viguerie called Paul "truly a principled conservative in the grand tradition of Robert Taft, Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan."

Jefferson County Elects Majority of Ron Paul Delegates to WV GOP Convention

Jefferson County at-large delegates for the West Virginia GOP convention were finalized in an election Saturday, and the majority of delegates chosen were for Ron Paul.

Change for West Virginia is in the air, and this maverick, plain-speaking tax payers' friend for limited, Constitutional government is leading a revolutionary movement to change the course of Washington and take back the republican party from the neoconservatives.

This is a key political area, the heart of the West Virginia eastern panhandle, and could be a bellwether of things to come state-wide.

The West Virginia GOP establishment appears to favor Romney, but the leadership appear divided between him, Fred Thompson, and even the New York former democrat Rudolph Giuliani. Senator Vic Sprouse, for example supports and is a delegate for Giuliani, Daily Mail columnist and blogger Don Surber favors Thompson, while the GOP chair favors Romney.

It should be noted that a majority of at-large delegates state wide were uncommitted prior to the county elections. How many uncommitted delegates are elected for the convention could change the dynamic of the Feb. 5th GOP convention considerably, including candidate appearances.

clipped from journal-news.net Area Republicans elect delegates CHARLES TOWN — Jefferson County Republicans voted Saturday at the Charles Town Library for 17 of the 32 delegates who will represent county party-members on Feb. 5 at the state Republican convention. In Charleston, delegates from each county of the state will select two-thirds of the delegates to represent West Virginia at the Republican National Convention in September when the Republican candidate for president will be selected. The remaining one-third of delegates to the RNC will be selected May 13 during the West Virginia primary election. Presidential hopeful Ron Paul was the apparent beneficiary of Saturday’s election. Seventeen of the 30 candidates for Jefferson County delegates have already committed to giving their first round of votes in Charleston to delegates who have committed to support Paul at the RNC. No other presidential candidate has more than three of the possible county delegates committed to him or her.

NH Results: Fred Loses Big, 3 Points Separate Huck, Giuliani, Paul

McCain will not repeat this anywhere, who probably stripped most of the independent votes from Ron Paul. Giuliani and Thompson have no bragging rights over Ron Paul yet. The voters showed absolute contempt for Fred in New Hampshire.

clipped from abcnews.go.com Estimated Delegates: 12 Republican Primary Results Tuesday, January 8 Real-time Race Results: Updated January 9, 2008 - 12:12 PM (all times Eastern Standard) Precincts Reporting 99% Candidate Votes Vote % Delegates Projected Winner McCain 88,447 37% 7 Winner Romney 75,202 31% 4 Huckabee 26,760 11% 1 Giuliani 20,387 9% 0 Paul 18,276 8% 0 Thompson 2,884 1% 0 Hunter 1,220 1% 0

The Politico: Fred Thompson may drop out

GOP sources say a poor finish in Iowa may cause him to give up and endorse John McCain. What will Don Surber do? Ironic, since the Charleston Daily Mail's first poll in spring about who was the favorite GOP candidate included Fred Thompson (who had not yet declared or filed) and did not include Ron Paul, who has more delegates (prior to county elections for convention) than any other republican candidate for president. The purpose of Fred dropping out would be to prevent continued dilution of the pro-war primary voting, now spread across candidates other than Ron Paul, in order to narrow and increase the vote count for the neocon candidates. Yet this article says he would endorse John McCain, who has no prayer of winning.

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Iowa Debate: GOP Candidates Awake to Economic Crisis--Sort of

Note Fred Thompson's quote. Almost sounds like Ron Paul doesn't he? But they offer no concrete proposals as does Ron Paul and their cheer leading for "optimism" (e.g. blue-blood Romney) is a denial of the severity of the problem that Americans already realize. Ron Paul offers the real solution, to eliminate the Income Tax cut the Federal government back to Constitutional limits and stop excessive spending particularly on a trillion dollar war policy. At least Thompson has acknowledged the truth, while hedging on solutions. So republican voters should bear this in mind as an issue that is as equally important now as the war.

clipped from news.yahoo.com In a debate that did not address hot campaign trail topics like the Iraq war and immigration, the Republicans found plenty of room for agreement on the need to rein in federal spending, bring down taxes and achieve energy independence. The focus on economic issues gave the candidates a chance to lay out already published plans to ease growing public worries about the economy and reduce a federal debt they said was becoming a national security threat. "Our country has a $9 trillion debt. A good chunk of that is owned by China. We're bankrupting the next generation, without any question," said Fred Thompson, the former Tennessee senator and Hollywood actor. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who has fallen behind Huckabee in Iowa polls after leading for months, said the future was bright and the country's leaders should not "wring their hands." "We need leaders up in Washington that will rein in excessive spending," he said.

Ron Paul Leads in West Virginia GOP Delegates

HuntingtonNews.net broke the story ahead of the newspapers, and the GOP is too reluctant to post on their website (while they were not reluctant to collect delegate fees from everyone). This is a big development since the GOP establishment is pushing Romney, Thompson, and Giuliani.

Based on numbers released by wvgopconvention.com, Ron Paul has overtaken Mitt Romney to lead the state's committed delegate count 217-212. The other candidates stack up this way: Fred Thompson 163, Mike Huckabee 129, Rudy Giuliani 90, John McCain 25, Duncan Hunter 7, Alan Keyes 5 and Uncommitted 630.

A list of delegates registered as of 3 p.m. Dec. 6 can be found at: http://www.wvgopconvention.com/conte...ions_12_06.pdf.

As state campaigns launch, Paul's support has not come from a staff of paid consultants or advisors. Most of those supporting Paul have given freely of their time....

After all of the delegate registrations are processed, an online vote will be conducted among at-large candidates competing for more spots than there are vacancies. The West Virginia Convention will have a total of 1,446 delegates.

According to online postings, Kanawha County will be highly contested. As of the latest count, 130 delegates will compete for 51 slots in the online balloting. In Cabell County, 50 at-large delegates will be vying for 27 slots.

Delegate Count Update for West Virginia GOP Convention

Here is the latest delegate count as of last night of registered delegates for the republican state convention:

Fred Thompson 80
Mitt Romney 79
Ron Paul 68
Rudy Guliani 52

AGAIN NOTE: Republican Voters must be registered for special online voting, post marked by this Friday, Nov. 30th, in order to vote for their delegates during January 1-15th within their respective counties for the GOP state convention.

TRUE CONSERVATIVES LIKE RON PAUL

Now take a look at how the "liberal media" at CNN covers Ron Paul, impugning him with the establishment GOP as an "isolationist"--a complete misrepresentation. Note by this that the "liberal media" is supporting the neocon wars! Nevertheless, listen to the commentary about how Conservatives like Ron Paul for "limited government" and fiscal responsibility on several fronts. He is in the news because his momentum is building. Some insiders (outside the polls) say he could very well win New Hampshire, as did Pat Buchanan.

The West Virginia GOP Establishment vs. Ron Paul; Neoconservatives vs. Conservatives

First a quick update on the delegate count as of last night, provided by a local reliable source, then to the main subject:

Romney
64

Thompson
62

Paul
55

Giuliani
46

Now the voters will vote for delegates by county, to pair them down within county limits established by the GOP.

NOTE: Voters must be registered for online voting by this Friday, Nov. 30th, in order to vote for their delegates in January. (We hope the Elections Division of the Secretary of State's office will be monitoring closely for fairness, accuracy, to prevent mistakes or fraud in the GOP controlled system).

As most are aware Senator Vic Sprouse unleashed a railing alarm against Ron Paul's increasing delegates in a piece entitled Ron Paul attempting to hijack republican convention, whose delegate count was slightly ahead of the candidate that he is a delegate for, Rudolph Giuliani. The backlash from the blogosphere was incredible, the Senators ChangeWV blog receiving about 300 responses alone, and still counting.

What is significant about this is that Senator Sprouse is on the steering Committee of the state GOP party. Note the State party establishment is openly in opposition then to Ron Paul (see previous article), who has entered as a legitimate candidate, but now must be subject to the gauntlet of internal misrepresentation, persecution, even outright slander, because he is not an "establishment" favorite! "I have nothing against Ron Paul supporters", says Sen. Sprouse, but he clearly does, since they are "hijackers". Yet even the party establishment is split upon whom THEY want to 'hijack' the convention for themselves. One man's "hijack" is another man's "victory". It is the party establishment here that is being challenged, who feel threatened.

THE WEST VIRGINIA GOP FAILED TO COMMUNICATE TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS

You see the state GOP, who did no advertising to inform the public about how their complex new Convention system works (which was stacked to favor the already organized establishment--see previous article), finally put out radio advertising (on the state-wide "Talk Line" with Hoppy Kercheval) for delegates--this very last week! That still 1,100 delegates were needed shows the party establishment's failure to inform West Virginians, particularly outside the Capital region--which might just be the way they preferred it, since the GOP chairman McKinney (a Romney supporter) could then select vacant delegate seats himself! Ron Paul's supporters have actually done them a favor by driving attention to the very issue they failed to communicate, including for supporters of Huckabee and Hunter who also suffered by the lack of GOP party communication. So just who was trying to "hijack", through craft instead of open and fair play, the convention?

THE GOP ESTABLISHMENT VERSUS RON PAUL

Sen. Sprouse's warning here is to circle all the war wagons against Ron Paul who they perceive as a threat (a hijacker), while claiming in this post that he is no threat at all and "irrelevant". This is the essence of propaganda to scare people away from a message they might like. What he is trying to claim is that you will be in a small minority if you do not stay with the establishment's candidates, because they say so (i.e. "no one will vote for him"). Therefore, the very nature of the post betrays the Senator's disbelief in his own message. Ron Paul, they fear, could be a big surprise, and you might like his positions if permitted to hear them for yourself.

Does the party establishment believe THEIR thinking represents the thinking of the average conservative (most of whom questioned the justice of the war based on lies), or are the conservative Pharisees (under the cry of "we are your elected rulers, listen to us") trying to whip up a frenzy of opposition because multitudes are beginning to follow? (And do not be offended at the image, the liberal Sadducees are afraid as well). To wit, not one legitimate evidence was provided above of why we should not believe the "myths" about Ron Paul (go back and look), only empty assertions and allegations, in the same manner that the war was sold.

The establishment resistors of Ron Paul are not able to make persuasive arguments, only repeat "withdrawal is surrender" (yet that was the policy after Iraq I, Cheney decrying overthrowing Saddam or occupation as a quagmire), unjustly link him to "the left", or compare him to LaRouche. But withdrawal is not surrender in an unjust war, against Iraqis, not "terrorists" (as the 'liberal media' also calls them), and LaRouche indeed had a following, but Pat Buchanan might be a better comparison, though not entirely.

As for the Hillary fear card, Ron Paul could beat Hillary Clinton (just like Zogby said any republican could), easily, because republicans would rally around him. But many of us would never, ever vote for Giuliani (but abstain) to overthrow domestic freedom for a police state patterned after NYC and a CFR agenda, which would be the fault of the party establishment for abandoning the constitution, not us.

One thing that is clear is that the party leaders are afraid of Ron Paul, for he threatens not the people, but the establishment's power, who do not confess their wrongs, but stubbornly and impenitently defend abhorrent policies and unjust wars, and still bow to Bush and Cheney and their neoconservatism. But why should they be afraid, if they are sure they are right, and can defend themselves by debate? And why does Sen. Sprouse want to hijack the Convention for the biggest RINO in republican history--the former democrat Giuliani! Some have the appearance of abandoning the principles of their good legislative record by tying themselves to someone who has done the opposite! It is Sen. Sprouse that has some explaining to do as to why he supports such a candidate like Giuliani, who is a braggart but whose greatest critics are New York firefighters and 9/11 widows, and who takes credit for things not attributable directly to him.

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS IN DISARRAY--LITTLE EVIDENCE OF CONSTITUTIONAL, CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES

Republicans are scattered now because they are not united on what they believe, as their smorgasbord of candidates shows. The platform is in shambles (praising individual freedom while embracing collectivist policies and Wilsonian wars for "democracy"), and the mistake was making George W. Bush part of the party platform, who is following a neoconservative, not the constitution or conservative, agenda, entirely built upon unjust war (abortion of a million Iraqi lives, invading their sovereign womb), ironically, while justly decrying abortions of the pre-born. Ron Paul is nothing less than the "blow-back" that should be anticipated when just principles are forsaken to follow a new man or agenda, in this case the neoconservatives behind Bush. The republican establishment has failed to read the principles of the neoconservatives for themselves, thus separating themselves from their constituents, and largely had blind trust in the general "Christian"-feigned image crafted of Bush by the agnostic Karl Rove.

RON PAUL'S CONSERVATIVE CREDENTIALS AND PRINCIPLES

But their fears are unfounded. Why should the republican party establishment be afraid of a candidate who is the strongest anti-tax candidate the party has ever seen since Reagan, opposes the communist (collectivist) welfare state, the strongest defender of gun rights, who has consistently opposed abortion, who defends the sovereignty of the U.S. by opposing illegal immigration, NAFTA, and North American Union (as warned of by Jerome Corsi on 58Live)who believes in limited government and states rights, simply because he insists the Constitution should be followed in declaring war (oh, the gaul of him), rejects the creeping fascism of warrantless (not all) domestic surveillance on American citizens, opposes (as does Sen. Sprouse) REAL ID (any national ID card), wants to downsize government rather than expanding its welfare and police powers under the guise of a Gestapo-like "Homeland Security" bureaucracy and creeping surveillance state that are making America look more like Stasi Germany? When did it become radical to really defend Americans' freedom, instead of just saying so and doing the opposite, through threats of fear, and then live in a fantasy world of "24" and American Idol?

NEOCONSERVATIVE RINOS ALREADY HIJACKED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

And who has "hijacked" the republican party, but the neoconservatives (former democrats, disciples of Strauss and Leon Trotsky) who infiltrated through and with CFR member and David Rockefeller colleague, the RINO Dick Cheney? WHO HAS DECEIVED AND SWINDLED THE PRINCIPLES FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, FOR A PRE-PLANNED WAR AGENDA BEFORE 9/11 AND WERE MEMBERS OF THE PROJECT FOR NEW AMERICAN CENTURY? The party leadership is more committed to neo-conservatism than conservatism, without knowing the difference, because they follow men on bumper stickers who use the military as a campaign prop! (What do you think "neo" means anyway, but "new"?) As Pat Buchanan's new book highlighted in Drudge last night warned, the neoconservatives must be swept from the republican party if America is to be restored.

Just who are the "top tier candidates" that the State GOP pushes on us? Why are they all (Giuliani, Romney, Thompson) members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), a David Rockefeller organization that embraces an anti-sovereign UN global agenda based upon socialist principles, unleashed immigration, through economic pragmatism (this is Giuliani in spades)--and is pushing NAFTA and North American Union, amnesty for illegals and REAL ID? IT IS HIGH TIME FOR THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE--EXAMINE CAREFULLY WHO YOU ARE BLINDLY FOLLOWING. "Lay hands on no man quickly" is a biblical principle worthy of political application as well, and the party establishment is blindly pushing the wrong candidates, and fearing the best one.

THE PEOPLE WILL DECIDE FREELY UNLESS THE ESTABLISHMENT CAN STOP THEM

But the people will judge, if they will be permitted to hear above the fearful establishment's cries to prevent them from listening--the tactics now being employed in desperation here. Meanwhile those who are paranoid by the neocon propaganda about "jihadists that want to kill us every day", despite the plain lack of evidence (and the evidence of fabricated threats from neocon private contractors), and despite that Americans have more reason to fear each other as "terrorists" on the roads than toiletries in airports, will continue their mantra which requires fear in order to maintain power. Most of us want to return to Constitutional government from the rogue "unitary executive" (President as dictator) before our freedoms are entirely lost. That message is popular and rational, contrary to the present neoconservative fanaticism, to which the republican party should wake up. Ron Paul is their best friend, if they would only see it, but they are like a sick patient that does not want to take its medicine from the Doctor, that would heal the government from its frenzied and feverish policies. So the people might change out the republican leadership to obtain what they want, if they have to. To them that would be hijacking, but to the people, reform--revolution. The purpose of voting is to make peaceful revolutions possible, and that kind of hijacking is legal.

DICK CHENEY AN EX-DIRECTOR OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS AND DAVID ROCKEFELLER HID HIS CFR INVOLVEMENT FROM REPUBLICANS

Analysis of West Virginia GOP Convention; Ron Paul Leading Giuliani in Delegates

The Charleston Gazette reported today what every registered republican or even independent should read. Here below, in their words, is the current delegate count with final deadline for delegates to register being this Friday, Nov. 30th.

Fred Thompson has 55 delegates ...Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney follows with 49 delegates wishing to represent him. Ron Paul of Texas has 38. The Texas congressman is edging out former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and his 37 committed delegates....Another 148 delegates aren’t backing any candidate, giving each GOP contender a chance to win them over.

This will change of course by the end of this week, while 1,100 delegate seats are still up for grabs, demonstrating the public ignorance and confusion in this novel new process hastily created by the state GOP party. Rush and maneuvering will trump thoughtful deliberation in order to meet the deadline, forcing hasty decisions on delegates, perhaps largely pledging to a particular candidate without objective examination where superficial name recognition and crafted image are the primary influence.

HOW THE NEW PROCESS WORKS, WHAT EVERY VOTER SHOULD KNOW

For the best and simplest explanation of how the radically new TWO PART PROCESS of the West Virginia republican State Convention and Primary works is found here (another must read), from the Ron Paul 2008 campaign which managed to summarize it better than the state GOP website.

Note that 'uncommitted delegates' are the prize and lead the count standings in what will be a "winner take all" convention in February, with online county voting in January (requiring registration also). The regular primary will be held in May but for fewer (one half) of the delegates remaining. The entire process with this radically new state convention, you could say, is "stacked" for the GOP 'establishment' to deal and play and make it difficult to beat their favored candidate(s), since they control the majority of delegates within the convention with even the state chairman being able to appoint for any unfilled seats after the deadline Friday--where over 1,000 delegates are still needed! The few in the GOP establishment could decide for the many. Delegate counts, not straight up voting by registered republicans (i.e. votes are made within each county, thus candidates for each county are key to winning), will determine the convention winner, in this serious game.

HOW THE STATE PARTY RIGGED THE PROCESS TO FAVOR "ESTABLISHMENT" CANDIDATES

The state GOP says this is an open process that rewards not necessarily the candidate with most money, but the most organized. But the GOP establishment, pre-emptively favoring their own candidates with the most money, are already embedded in the formal organization, and generally pre-disposed against truly open and free debate, and seeking to steer the nomination process toward the neo-republican and CFR candidates of the leadership, and a continuation of Bush's neoconservative war policies and new Homeland Security government. This is something Gnewt Gingrich even warned about, that the republicans would lose the White House if their candidate was perceived to be a continuation of Bush policies, which the polls on Bush plainly indicate. Also, some outlying counties were not granted (by the establishment gods) any "at large" delegates and also weighted delegate counts to counties who went for George W. Bush (i.e. a man with a neoconservative policy became part of the party platform, instead of conservative principles) in 2004. Thus the delegate counts by county are conceded to be stacked toward a "continuation" of the policies of George W. Bush while 70 percent of the nation is opposed to the war and Bush's approval ratings at an all time low. Thus while Gen. Chuck Yeager endorsed Duncan Hunter you will not hear much about him, or the former televangelist Huckabee, which Phyllis Schlafley's Eagle Forum virtually called a liberal in conservative clothing (see the WSJ op-ed "Another Man from Hope?").

Ron Paul's grass roots support, however, which has also included strong fund raising, like spontaneous combustion, has broken through and fronts the only conservative yet revolutionary platform of change--a counter-revolution to restore Constitutional rule of law, versus both the neoconservatives and democratic socialists, a genuine "strict constructionist" view of the Constitution that republicans sometimes talk about, but never adhere to themselves. The attraction of this candidate has increased dramatically in direct proportion to those who hear his speeches or read his Congressional track record and policies for themselves, who are alarmed at the anti-constitutional radicalism of the neoconservatives who have hijacked the republican party and are moving America from freedom to fascism while nation building toward a global federation of democracies, largely by threatening wars upon nations never attacking the United States under pretense of "war on terrorism". His anti-tax positions (including abolishing the Income Tax and IRS) have made him a favorite conservative, his 2nd amendment record shows he has pushed to roll back gun regulation, his opposition to abortion consistent as both a doctor and Congressman, who has a record of consistency in principles and personal integrity, who opposes illegal immigration, who was among the first to support Ronald Reagan toward limited government and states rights, and who calls for a return to the "just war" principles of Christianity which limits wars largely to self-defense only, contrary to neoconservative democratic jihads, which have indebted the nation and overthrown its principles.

Among the state GOP party establishment are such as Sen. Vic Sprouse who, shockingly, despite his own conservative legislative record, is a delegate for the former democrat Giuliani and the McKinneys who appear to rally around Romney, the former governor of Ted Kennedy's state. Both of these "establishment" candidates are members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) that supports both NAFTA and a North American Union (warned against by Dr. Jerome Corsi on 58Live), compromises toward amnesty on immigration, and are "anti-gun" in their 2nd amendment history, as well as historically pro-abortion candidates--all of which they have sought to excuse or suddenly modify, paying lip service, like Chameleons, to the Constitution and more conservative principles. Romney also signed as governor the first mandatory health insurance state law in the country--a dictatorial socialist policy. Fred Thompson has been openly cheer leaded by Daily Mail editorialist and blogger Don Surber. Yet Fred (who admittedly is being attacked by both FOX and neocon pundits like Charles Krauthammer, apparently favoring Giuliani who would follow their radical and revolutionary policies precisely) also has a history of lobbying for pro-abortion entities, is also a member of the CFR that threatens U.S. sovereignty, and already has demonstrated (prior to his official announcement) his willingness to be a pawn toward the pro-Israel lobby and the neoconservative propaganda wars against "Islamo fascists" consistent with the blueprint for a "new middle east", that has cost Americans both blood and $800 billion by invading countries that never attacked the U.S. nor harbored terrorists. Generally Fred seems to take a "maintenance" position, "strolling" toward the Presidency largely on his celebrity image, rather than presenting any concrete change of the present course in both domestic Homeland Security policy (stripping away Americans' freedoms) or foreign entanglements. It can be summed up that the party establishment is predisposed toward the neo-republican CFR candidates who follow a neoconservative, rather than conservative, agenda. The Gazette documented this too:

...Both Thompson and Romney have two state party officers and two county GOP chairmen among their Feb. 5 convention delegates. However, Thompson also has 11 legislators, while Romney has one.

Among the notable Republican Party figures committed to candidates:

- Thompson: Senate Minority Leader Don Caruth, R-Mercer; House Minority Leader Tim Armstead, R-Kanawha; former Congressman Mick Staton.

- Romney: National Committeewoman Donna Gosney; state school board Vice President Priscilla Haden; former state Supreme Court Justice John McCuskey; Sue McKinney, Harrison County GOP chairwoman and wife of the state chairman.

- Giuliani: Wood County Commission President Rick Modesitt; Sens. Frank Deem of Wood County and Vic Sprouse of Kanawha.

- McCain: Mason County Commissioner Miles Epling; Fayette County GOP Chairman Gary Lilly; former lawmaker and veteran lobbyist Larry Swann.

- Huckabee: Ashley Stinnett, head of the state’s Federation of Young Republicans.

- Hunter: Marion County GOP Chairman Andrew Sabak.

- Paul’s roster, meanwhile, suggests a more grass-roots appeal; 35 of his 38 delegates are at-large.

West Virginia GOP still needs 1100 delegates
Charleston Gazette - WV, USA
Ron Paul of Texas has 38. The Texas congressman is edging out former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and his 37 committed delegates. ...
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Iran: Cheney caught "fixing the intelligence around the policy"--again!

Yes Cheney is planning to pitch another "curve ball" on Iran's nuclear capability. This article, that has great inside sources (like a good scout), serves up the report on how this game will be played again, this time to justify war with Iran. This is precisely the same tactics he used with Iraq, so that Colin Powell could give "evidence of WMD" before the United Nations, and American people.

Will Americans believe the same lies again, from the same neoconservative cabal? Will the media report any different or again be complicit in speaking with one great electronic voice to sell another unjust war? Will republicans continue to permit the neoconservatives and their candidates (Giuliani, Romney, Thompson) who justify the same lies and propaganda to sway and control the already hijacked republican party? Does anyone care about the truth anymore, or is this just blatant PAX AMERICANA and global revolution for democratic world government like the imperialists of history?

No imperialist empire has ever survived as history proves. The very agenda of the neoconservatives for "benevolent global hegemony" by the U.S. is setting the stage for America's demise. Truly "Wisdom crieth aloud" saying "oh fools, when will you be wise"? "Pride cometh before the fall" is apparently forgotten, but the divine axiom will not be broken.

clipped from www.ipsnews.net POLITICS-US: Cheney Tried to Stifle Dissent in Iran NIE Gareth Porter* WASHINGTON, Nov 8 (IPS) - A National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran has been held up for more than a year in an effort to force the intelligence community to remove dissenting judgments on the Iranian nuclear programme, and thus make the document more supportive of U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney's militarily aggressive policy toward Iran, according to accounts of the process provided by participants to two former Central Intelligence Agency officers. But this pressure on intelligence analysts, obviously instigated by Cheney himself, has not produced a draft estimate without those dissenting views, these sources say. The White House has now apparently decided to release the unsatisfactory draft NIE, but without making its key findings public. The White House wants a document that it can use as evidence for its Iran policy," says Giraldi.

Ron Paul's $4.2 Million November 5th Money Bomb

The neo-republicans should take note that this man's constitutional message is more popular than they think, and "remember, remember the 5th of November".

The strongest evidence that the republican party does not abide by the Constitution and has disenfranchised much of its Reagan base (via absolute and blind support of Bush's "war on terror" agenda) is evidenced in this "second tier" candidates' growing popularity.

Over 74 percent of Americans (per an ABC poll on network news tonight) say the country is going in the wrong direction. And people do not believe the Big Government democrat establishment has the answer either. The neocons "war on terror" is a Democratic Jihad to overthrow "regimes" for their "new middle east", outlined by the Project for the New American Century in September 2000, an entire year before 9/11. The second clear element is that it is also the justification for an overthrow of the Constitution domestically for a new Homeland Security government--a historical blueprint for fascism. Though the ramped and hyped "terrorist threat" is statistically microscopic this revolutionary agenda toward a police state has been rammed through Congress and pushed on the American people. Could it be that THIS is what 74 percent of Americans do not like or approve of? The potential for a presidential candidate who breaks from "staying the course", by these measures, is that he obviously has a greater chance of being elected if enough people hear of him.

The CFR neo-republicans and democrats will never break from the present course. Instead of attempting to silence him the republican establishment needs to pay attention to the irrefutable fact that people disenfranchised from their own party (Reagan- and paleo-conservatives) are attracted to his message of limited government and restrained foreign policy. But that is too reasonable for the willingly ignorant , "stay the course" republicans.

The Washington Post knew that they had to print something on such a newsworthy event. Not too bad an article, while however still using slang pejoratives to cast contributors as a small well-organized faction. Well, "money talks", and shows conviction. This will increase his fund raising further and people will now takes his positions seriously. There is no way this was done by "spammers". Maybe Don Surber has another "conspiracy theory" of how this one was done too! Tell us Don, was it "Nigerians for Ron Paul" that did this? Too bad Fred Thompson and Rudy "Godfather" Giuliani do not have an enthusiastic base outside of the "establishment". But watch and see too that serious business investors love the "free market" economics of Ron Paul. I predict now more of them will jump on the bandwagon (as George Will has) and his support, including financially, could grow exponentially by year's end.

The support for the positions of Ron Paul (to restore Constitutional rule of law and our freedoms, and against unjust wars) is very real, and the neocons' worst nightmare. Republicans should embrace someone who is restoring their former principles that the party would benefit greatly from.

clipped from blog.washingtonpost.com Paul's Money-Bomb Throwers Speculate, theorize, stereotype. Only one thing is clear: the Paulites, the loyal, organized, Web-savvy supporters of Rep. Ron Paul, know how to raise money online, and 37,000 Paulites set a record yesterday by hauling in more than $4.2 million in 24 hours. That's the most money raised online by a candidate in a single day. A Paulite came up with the fundraising idea, a few more Paulites joined in and set the date for Nov. 5, Guy Fawkes Day, a symbol of rebellion in British history, then the "money bomb" effort spread virally. "What he's done -- what his supporters have done -- is astonishing," Ed Rollins, who managed Ross Perot's campaign in 1992 and served as an adviser to President Reagan, told The Trail. "You can't dismiss his anti-war vote. You can't dismiss the power of one man standing up with a powerful message. And that grassroots support, especially his popularity online, has been something of a phenomena.

Ron Paul's First Action as President --- Simple and Powerful Change

Amazingly simple but which would effect the entire world, and every American's life, including gas prices. He also talks about how weak terrorists really are, that it does not require full wars against countries to deal with them. How reasonable!

(Note: he mentions that the oil markets "know" that war with Iran is close which is driving crude prices to $93 per barrel now, and will soon drive gas to $4 per gallon within 6 months unless the neocons are stopped).

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Florida GOP Debate: Fred Compares Rudy to Hillary; Ron Paul Wins FOX Poll Again

AUDIO SPIN ROOM FOX DEBATES

RON PAUL'S INTERVIEW AFTER HE WIN'S WITH 35%...FOX Hannity in shock again! He refutes the unjust charges of poll "spamming" (which is not possible via FOX's cell poll system) and compliments FOX's good audience. Hannity begins to smile (if you see the video) because Paul is making rational arguments, and his genuine support is irrefutable.

Listen to the FOX "Spin Room" portion in PODCAST HERE

FOX NEWS TEXT MESSAGE POLL RESULTS
Who won the Florida GOP Debate?

Ron Paul - 34% - Winner
Mike Huckabee - 27%
Rudy Giuliani - 11%
Mitt Romney - 10%
Fred Thompson - 9%
John McCain - 5%

Read it and weep Don Surber. Fred needs some help. Meanwhile the spin is a "Florida focus group" says Giuliani won. He was way behind Huckabee! Did Huckabee "spam" the polls too? He is never charged is he? There is not even consistency in their baseless arguments, only bias assertions.

QUESTIONS: ARE NOT THE MEDIA MANIPULATING THEIR AUDIENCES INSTEAD OF REPORTING THE TRUTH? IS THE MEDIA NOT DELIBERATELY MANIPULATING PUBLIC OPINION, WHEN POLLS DO NOT SHOW WHAT THEY WANT? Like we stated before, 'FOX distorts, won't let you decide!' Spin...spin...spin as they might, the truth cannot be entirely drown out. Maybe the parties should listen to what Americans are really saying, and beginning to listen to, instead of their own propaganda and that of the party elitists. Does America really have "free elections" or "free press" when all this goes on?

The republicans see how Ron Paul is getting attention for limited government and constitutional views (as if the oath of office does not make them swear to it) and now they debated who was the most conservative, while Ron Paul is!

FRED SLAMS RUDY: Fred Thompson compares Giuliani's positions to those of Hillary Clinton--accurate and priceless! (Listen to it in the podcast above). But Fred is a hypocrite, just another CFR republican himself parroting the neocon script.


Then read this to see just how much both media and republican party do not want you to decide, but manipulate and stack the audience, polling, and all other means possible against Ron Paul. Yet his support keeps growing!

Fox News 'Stacked the Deck' at Latest Debate?

Sunday, October 21, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com

NEWS ANALYSIS/OPINION

Was the anti-Ron Paul fix in? GOP Jeffersonian conservative presidential candidate Ron Paul signaled that he believed it probably was in a victorious, post-debate interview, pointing out that he was only allowed 1,000 audience tickets [compared to others].

While Sean Hannity (see related story) indicated that Ron Paul supporters "stacked" the cell-phone poll that showed Ron Paul won the debate, the truth may be the reverse. By placing the debate in Florida, a stronghold of the Bush/Giuliani wing of the Republican party, and by setting the rules to select a neo-conservative audience, Fox and the Republican party apparently got what it could not get in New Hampshire - an anti-Ron Paul crowd.

(See reactions at DailyPaul.com, LewRockwell.com/blog or even the posting board at such sites as MSNBC for more comments on the Fox audience composition)

Reports on the 'Net, for instance, indicate that Mitt Romney purchased the most tickets and had the most supporters in the audience, though Fox apparently never clearly stated how the audience was chosen. In any event the debate audience was hostile to Ron Paul's anti-American Empire statements and anti-war rhetoric. So was the handful of GOP voter-representatives that were gathered together to give a minute by minute reaction to the debate.

The audience scenario was in stark contrast to the larger American public that wants an end to militarism by a reported 70-30 margin. The apparently deliberate composition of the audience comes on the heels of anti-Ron Paul bias at another Rupert Murdoch media entity, the New York Post (see related story) that actually covered the recent Value Voter GOP debate without mentioning that Ron Paul came in third in an after-debate online poll.

The constant and deliberate strategies of placing Ron Paul at a disadvantage, or ignoring him altogether, are insignificant when taken alone, but, like pinpricks, add up and cause significant irritation. Nonetheless, the Ron Paul campaign has persevered; he has finished at or near the top in straw poll after straw poll; his fund raising has moved up dramatically each quarter; ridicule has given way to irritation and calculated avoidance.

Most recently, it would seem the mainstream media has ceased to emphasize the straw polls, and even the fund-raising that used to paint a portrait of a winning candidate. Instead, more and more, media "pundits" depend on mainstream polling data to marginalize Ron Paul and his constitutionalist message.

Trouble is, as Ron Paul himself pointed out last night, the polls that mainstream media is relying on still often do not even mention him as an option.

Yet the attacks continue to come; newspapers stories deliberately do not mention his successes, audiences are picked to oppose him, talk radio and TV hosts go out of their way to denigrate his points of view without ever explaining exactly what they are.

Ron Paul perseveres....

Conservative Straw Poll--Giuliani Out; Romney, Huckabee, Paul Top

It also states in the article that "Romney's campaign actively petitioned supporters to vote online whether or not they had attended the conference." So that would be Romney "slamming the polls", not Ron Paul, wouldn't it?

Note Ron Paul dashed both Giuliani and Fred Thompson. Note as well that
"permanent tax reductions" and taxes are two of the leading values issues, as well as abortion opposition and defending marriage (something Presidents actually have little influence legally upon, more so the states).

This shows that Ron Paul is a serious contender. It also shows with Huckabee that republican voters are dissatisfied with Giuliani. Too bad people are blind to Huckabee's lack of constitutional integrity, or lack of a lower tax plan (Paul would eliminate the Income Tax entirely!), and fail to see that unjust war (the neocon's Iraq, Iran, Syria plan) is also murder, more so than abortion! This shows the ignorance and biblical illiteracy of "values voters'" judgment.

clipped from blogs.abcnews.com Romney Wins Conservative Straw Poll Email Share October 20, 2007 3:36 PM ABC News' Karen Travers reports: Mitt Romney won the Family Research Council Values Voters' Summit straw poll in Washington Saturday, barely beating out Mike Huckabee with just 30 more votes. Romney garnered 1595 votes to Huckabee's 1565 in the poll of conservative activists. Ron Paul was third with 865 and Fred Thompson was fourth with 564 votes. Rudy Giuliani, who addressed the crowd Saturday, finished eighth. More than 2,000 conservative activists attended the summit and heard from the Republican presidential field over the last two days. 3. Please indicate which issue is the most important in determining your opinion of the candidate that you will most likely vote for – choose one: RESULTS: -abortion -defending marriage -tax cuts -permanent tax relief RESULTS: Romney- 1595 Huckabee- 1565 Paul- 865 Thompson- 564 Brownback- 297 Hunter- 140 Tancredo- 133 Giuliani- 107 McCain- 81

"Islamo-Fascism": Fred Thompson Shills for the Neoconservative Agenda in First Debate

Question: What is the greatest problem and threat to America?

Answer: The greatest threat to America is Islamo-fascism. These are Islamic fundamentalists and jihadists that want to kill us all, especially Jews and Christians. 9/11 changed everything.

-- Unofficial Neoconservative Catechism required by the new republican establishment

Make no mistake, Fred Thompson is bought and paid for, another neoconservative shill, equally owned by the Israeli lobby. Israel Today reported this on June 6th:

Fred Thompson coming to Israel

Fred Thompson, US presidential hopeful and former star of the hit television series “Law & Order,” is scheduled to make his first visit to Israel in the coming days.

Thompson, who is said to have a fair chance of winning the Republican presidential nomination, will meet with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and various other senior officials during his tour of Israel.

Of the dozen or so candidates contesting the nomination, Thompson is among the most supportive of Israel.

Here again is the power of the Israeli lobby and neoconservatives, mostly Jewish and Zionist. Candidates that are establishment 'approved' must pass the muster not with Americans, but must be fully indoctrinated and approved by Israel and its imbedded dual-citizen officials within the government. The Zionist influenced media, with largely Jewish corporate heads, will also be sure to give these candidates more push and coverage. So Thompson shows himself to be another Israeli-firster and his commitment and oath to the Constitution and American interests are already compromised.

Fred Thompson, like Giuliani and Romney also, is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), like Cheney, a David Rockefeller organization pushing for world government and its key ingredient of a North American Union. This is why not just anyone can become president of the U.S., they must have powerful "connections", and therefore loyalties, which immediately compromise constitutional law to a larger agenda subversive to America's legitimate government. (Democrats are members of the CFR as well, and also the Israeli lobby). Ron Paul is the only true conservative and constitutionalist that has no ties to these anti-American interests.

"Islamo-Fascism"

"Fascism" is a pejorative term to be taken and believed without thinking of its true definition of "centralized power", something that has no evidence in the Islamic world, or even in Iran. But it does describe the "Federal" Government in Washington (the term federal refers to limited and delegated powers from the states, not absolute central power).

The only "fascism" threatening America is what is being established by anti-constitutional "unitary Executive" power and legislated by a cowardly complicit Congress. Key elements of Totalitarian Government and Fascism, like REAL (National) ID, USA PATRIOT ACT, Military Commissions Act, Domestic Spying, Homeland Security (America's Gestapo) have not been established by any Islamic "terrorists", but from the White-washed House on Pennsylvania Avenue and under the Capitol dome. 9/11 was used to "terrorize" Americans for this purpose, to usurp anti-constitutional powers over the American people and to hijack military power for a global Democratic Jihad of their own. The neoconservative fifth column, coercing and hijacking the republican party via Cheney and Bush, is behind it all. It is all THEIR plan, based upon THEIR ideology of a SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC WORLD GOVERNMENT AND THE SUPPRESSION OF ALL DISSENT. This is why a North American Union and illegal immigration amnesty is also part of their plan.

Thompson warns of Islamic fascism in debut debate
09 Oct 2007

Screen star Fred Thompson muscled into his debut 2008 presidential debate clash with Republican rivals Tuesday, vowing to repel a tide of "Islamic fascism" aimed at bringing down the West.

What is amazing is that some still believe this propaganda despite the lack of credible evidence. So here is an expose' on the term "Islamo Fascism" (linked to original at Lew Rockwell) and where it came from, and the neoconservative propaganda and ideology that it comes from, which comes not from American conservatives, but from disciples of Leon Trotsky! Anyone who repeats it, therefore, is reciting Trotskyist ideology and propaganda that continues to control and deceive Americans.

Springtime for Trotsky

by Daniel McCarthy

In most circles the word "fascist" is a generic pejorative, an epithet that conveys a moral judgment rather than a description. We Americans have perhaps become so accustomed to this use of the word that we don't even think about it. We should, because "fascist" in this sense was specifically coined by the Communist revolutionary Leon Trotsky to identify all of his rivals, even Stalin, with Hitler and Mussolini – and with "the right." Its use reveals the undying influence of Trotsky.

By calling Stalin a fascist, Trotsky and his followers could claim that "real" socialism is not a murderous ideology. They could further claim that all true threats to human dignity and freedom really come from the right. Although Trotsky himself had a rather fateful encounter with an icepick in 1940, Trotkyists today continue his fight on behalf of international social democracy. These days however Trotskyists prefer to call themselves "neoconservatives."

Over the past two months the word "Islamofascism" has gained currency. The term has appeared in National Review Online, The Weekly Standard, and at Andrew Sullivan's website, among other places. To a vigilant eye the word "Islamofascism" looks suspiciously like a classic Trotskyist coinage. You don't have to be a fan of either fascism or Islamic terrorism to wonder if there's more than meets the eye to this word.

"Islamofascist" was coined or at least popularized by Stephen Schwartz in his recent Spectator article "Ground Zero and the Saudi Connection." Note that within the article Schwartz singles out Stalin and Bolshevism for criticism, rather than Communism in general.

Schwartz, who now writes from National Review Online, is a hardly abashed Trotskyist. Here's how a one-time fellow traveler of Schwartz's describes him:

Schwartz's parents had been members of the pro-Moscow Communist Party U.S.A. In reaction against the Stalinist milieu he'd grown up in, he'd become a Trotskyist in his teens and eventually gravitated towards the left communism of the FOR [Fomento Obrero Revolucionario]. Schwartz and I agreed that all forms of Leninism were counter-revolutionary. This didn't stop Schwartz from intensely identifying with Leon Trotsky and blaming anything that peeved him, from bad weather to poor table service, on the machinations of "Stalinists".

By attaching himself to the FOR, Schwartz could gain notice among Trotskyists as the author of the most extreme left English language publication close to the Trotskyist spectrum, and guarantee himself a place in the future as a wax mannequin in the ludicrous icepickhead pantheon that was so dear to his heart.

And here is Schwartz in his own words, referring to information he gleaned from reseraching the Venona transcripts:

Dismissing questions about the guilt of Alger Hiss, Lauchlin Currie, and Harry Dexter White, Schwartz writes: "I am much less interested in the fates of these three bourgeois careerists than I am in those of such dissident revolutionists as Ignacy Porecki-Reiss, Andreu Nin and Leon Trotsky." "I have never understood the moral compass of certain U.S. intellectuals who consider the sufferings of White and Hiss, or of the heirs of Currie, to be more compellingly tragic than the assassination of Reiss, the death by torture of Nin or the smashing of Trotsky's brain by an ice ax" by Soviet agents, writes Schwartz.

For Schwartz, Stalinist assassinations are something of an obsession. He wrote a piece for the Weekly Standard earlier this year hypothesizing that Stalin murdered Frankfurt School theorist Walter Benjamin. From this article and his quote above it's hard not to conclude that Schwartz feels a great deal of continuing sympathy for Trotsky and the Trotskyists, and not just for the grisly ways they met their deaths. Was Trotsky's assassination really "tragic," as Schwartz says?

The Trotskyist pedigree of neoconservatism is no secret; the original neocon, Irving Kristol, acknowledges it with relish: "I regard myself to have been a young Trostkyite and I have not a single bitter memory." Nor is there any doubt about the influence – one might almost say hegemony – of "former Communists" on the post-war conservative movement. Just read the words of one neocon, Seymour Martin Lipset:

From the anti-Stalinists who became conservatives – including James Burnham, Whittaker Chambers, and Irving Kristol – the Right gained a political education and, in some cases, an injection of passion. The ex-radicals brought with them the knowledge that ideological movements must have journals and magazines to articulate their perspectives. In 1955, for example, William F. Buckley, Jr., launched National Review at the urging of Willi Schlamm, a former German Communist. In its early years, National Review was largely written and edited by the Buckley family and a handful of former Communists, Trotskyists, and socialists, such as Burnham and Chambers. It played a major role in creating the Goldwaterite and Reaganite New Right and in stimulating an anti-Soviet foreign policy.

Worthy of note is that while ex-Stalinists tended to denounce their Communist roots vehemently, neoconservatives like Kristol and Schwartz remain at least wistfully fond of Trotsky. It's also worth noting that the neoconservative preoccupation with exporting social democracy abroad through war and mercantilism reflects the original split between Trotsky and Stalin. Trotsky argued that there could not be "socialism in one country" but rather that the revolution had to be truly international. And so the neoconservatives push for "human rights" and social democratic governments to be imposed on Serbia, for example, by force of arms.

And so fifty-six years after the death of Hitler we're still fighting a war against "fascism" in one form or another. We're still fighting to make the world safe for (social) democracy. Somewhere in the bowels of hell Leon Trotsky must be smiling.

Postscript: I'm indebted to Paul Gottfried, whose lectures at the Mises Institute's History of Liberty conference inspired and informed much of this article.

November 6, 2001

Daniel McCarthy [send him mail] is a graduate student in classics at Washington University in St. Louis.

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